Received two survey forms, three letters and two visits at my door and awaiting a third based on a lovely letter I received yesterday announcing yet another visit. How can I verify that a mailing is legitimate and from the US Census Bureau? the Supreme Court's decisions over the years has established that the rights to privacy is a basic human right, and as such is protected by virtue of the 9th amendment. Why am I being contacted again? and see what they make of that. We received the form last spring. The old surveys don't ask for much more than that (other than birthplace). So, I tore off the page with my address on it and shredded it, and then I tossed the rest of the survey into the garbage. I needed to read this! One month ago, I received a letter stating that the census was coming. The Census form estimates that it takes about 40 minutes to reply to its questionnaire. By the time the phone calls started I had researched the ACS and knew what the game was and that the threat of fines was bogus. We were hired to call people who did not respond and we left messages on answering machines. The bad thing is, this is information that is collected by the government. Yet, it seems lately that these rights are being taken from the American people. He stated I would receive no further calls from the census but the next contact would be from the Justice department. Of course I would expect them to correct this oversight in the near future. According to the Census Bureau, it randomly selects 3.5 million households each year as targets of the ACS. Lock Perhaps the people who did not answer the questions do not want to end up like the Japanese Americans did during World War II when the census was used to track them down, and it took 50 years to find out about it! They can't take my free will. We then engaged in a bit of "palaver" in which she said that they can require us to answer any question they want because "it's in the Constitution". Protect your privacy. From what I've read online about the operation methods of the Census Bureau staff that won't have any chance of avoiding a phone call "Computer Aided Telephone Interview" But I'm hoping that by telling them every time that their OMB# is expired it will shorten my interview process somewhat. I served my country in Vietnam. On Monday, a worker left a letter at my door advising he would return again. I told him "We're done here". We will then see them online. Three times they were soaked standing at my door. I looked the form up online and balked at the intrusiveness of the question. They have all the information they need from the IRS. At least they are working instead of collecting welfare checks. Official websites use .gov We also make brief phone calls on occasion for quality assurance purposes. Well, our credit cards, social security numbers, and who knows what else, are now being used by illegal aliens and fraudulent companies. If such a law exists, it should not exist, for it would be truly unconstitutional. She was a little surprised how I knew things about her. So why do they need how many rooms are in the house, what I use to heat the house, what amount was my electric bill and so on and so on? Housing 16. I didn't argue or discuss it, just stated the truth and hung up immediately. Thanks to all of you for your comments. If you have questions regarding data policies or a FOIA request, contact the Policy Office. How can I verify that an email or text message from the Census Bureau is legitimate? If Big Brother wants to bring the law so be it. In the article above, it mentions the fine is per offense; but I did not read that anywhere in Title 13. For general questions, call 1-800-923-8282 or visit ask.census.gov to message our Customer Service Center. As us Cajuns say: Hell froze over when the Saints won the Super Bowl last season. Let this letter be the third request that you respect my privacy and my requests. Thomas Jefferson. I refused to answer these as these are not required. I will not be giving some 18 year old pimple face unemployed moron my personal information. They say they are from the U.S. Dept of Commerce. I've been through it. I thought the purpose of census was for representation purposes. Interesting. Polite, firm, refusal. For these reasons and likely more, the ACS has been said to be unanswered by about 45% of its recipients. Would you believe they just called again? In order to function, the opt-out add-on must be able to load and execute properly on your browser. He had to come through a closed gate. I have contacted The American Center For Law and Justice. They are a toothless tiger. He came to my door anyway. They were expected to decline another 9% this year, according . Just one question, what could the $1 billion could have been spent on other than conducting a poll? Housing 19b. Don't touch them and if they do touch you, even slightly, fall down and don't get up until an ambulance arrives. If you are clear and firm in your refusal they will leave you alone. It's is reminiscent of Hitler's rise to power. The funny part is the local grocery store has this job post up. This is Government out of control. I'll be laughing when funding for social programs and highway repair funding is cut in your area because you refused to answer simple questions that can not be connected to you. Ridiculous. Whether I'm white, black, hispanic, etc., or whether I own or rent my home, makes as much difference to the count of legal U.S. citizens as not having to show your legal or illegal status as a U.S. citizen. It is pages and pages of personal questions. In addition to conducting the decennial census count, the Census Bureau oversees surveys that collect information from households, businesses, schools, hospitals, and more. I have written to the senators of my state and didn't even receive a 'canned' response. If all they want is a head count, all they have to do is count social security numbers! Amazing. What Percent of the US Population do Lawyers Comprise. Now who you work for, when you go to work, how much you make; is all stored in a government database. @CalminHeart wrote: Here's what it says online: The American Community Survey is a legitimate survey conducted by the CensusBureau. My husband and I now know what we will do when a rep shows up at our door. He told the guy to just make something up. That didn't go over to well and he told me that I was refusing to comply with a government agency and wouldn't get my money back. Let's see if she comes back for her shower. I can just feature a call stating: If you can't walk up and down stairs, maybe we should think about asking if you are a useful citizen and do you need to be wandering around loose. Thus, they cannot use the census as the pretext for the ACS. I told her not to come back or I would spray her with my garden hose. We said in Boyd v. U.S., 116 U. S. 616, 630, 6 Sup. Thank you, Poster 188. I personally do not want to answer because it's just a habit but if they did catch me off-guard, I would probably give them an answer of some sort (like I am a boyfriend who is watching my girlfriend's house while she's away with the peace corps for six months and that I already answered the census for my home a few blocks away). I propose: 1) Grabbing your video recorder and recording the entire exchange. Census worker says "I am with the census.". Today another call demanding to know my name and telling me I would be fined. This all happened while I was watching from my porch. For the first time in the 25-year history of AmCham China's business sentiment survey, a majority of responding companies said China is no longer seen as a "top three investment priority". I am not saying that the US government would or could ever go to this extreme but, for the purposes of garnering ever more political power and authority over the citizenry, I have no illusions about how far this government will go. The surveyor didn't respond to that one when we had a "terse" discussion with them today. I have not opened or returned them. I have contacted all of my federal and state Representatives and it is time they passed a census privacy act. I asked who he was and he attempted to open the screen door. I am becoming more and more ashamed I fought for this newly founded socialist government. When they ask for race, that's what gets me. My caller id usually reads 'unavailable' or 'out of area'. Note down your survey questions. I have had them endlessly harass me on the phone after I filled the form out two times and talked to someone they sent to my door. Washington and California residents have filed a proposed class action in which they object to being asked to participate in the American Community Survey, which enquires about certain demographic details more specific than those central to the decennial Census. ACS is really not worth losing any sleep over. State citizens can help in this process by refusing to cooperate with federal demands (all of them). Let's get them to spread the word. God bless America and individual freedom! She left me with a notice of visit with her name and I suppose her personal phone number. I have no problem with telling folks how many people, even our ages and nationalities. When I got the second form I mailed it back stating I filled it out already and do not need to fill it out again. But obviously they want to know everything about you. I have been contacted to participate in a survey. I was told if I didn't answer then his supervisor would come out and if I didn't respond to his supervisor, they would return with a Larimer County Sheriff and then I would have to answer or else! Um, no they don't have the right to fine you. The Census Bureau takes measures to reduce the number of surveys you may be selected to participate in, but it is still possible that you could be selected for more than one. For everyone saying what's the big deal- go play in traffic. I love my country and I'm proud to be an American. Shame it's only once every ten years. The second visit, I handed him a sealed census envelope, and he came back and left a note that the computer kicked it out. anon10731 is obviously a census worker!!!!!! So, do I really need to fill this out, or can I use it to line my bird cage? So, the government says that it needs to, you know, know what time you leave so they can manage traffic. and inviting me to contact them if I had any concerns. Be advised that no matter how intensive your efforts become, nor what kind of fine, penalty, prosecution or imprisonment you may wish to threaten, I, as a free American citizen, will not allow any agency of this government to demand, under penalty of law, that I disclose private and personal information about the members of my household. OK then, so why waste my time asking questions? Oh wait, we have a socialist leader now. Unbelievable that she is now spying on us. How do I know these census folks are trustworthy? Mykel. I tossed out both copies of the ACS long form. From reading here, it looks like disclosing phone numbers is just an additional way of eventually breaking you down. I let her know that I understood their game and wasn't going to play, and she said she would record me as a refusal. Not to mention when the people came to my door I informed them that they were trespassing without proper identification and subject to arrest. I was truthful in all 10 short form answers. I filed my taxes, all the information they feel they need to know is there. The census man came to my house eight times, two of which he sat in my driveway for a total of 50 minutes. How much do I make per year? Bunch of grumpy anti social loners. Has anyone ever been fined or penalized for not complying? Research brought me here. Publication of the new marital data is anticipated in late 2009. Millions of dollars wasted! He said, "I'll see what I can do." I am just not going to answer any questions. Avoiding them will not really be possible since we have a houseful of teenagers who will most likely keep answering the door. I plead the 5th amendment because the government can ask legally, according to the attorneys office, but I can also remain silent legally. My husband sent him away as we were eating. Filled out the short form months ago. I don't feel they need to know all the crap they are asking. Ultimately, you might just need to either answer the census to get them to stop coming or, as an alternative, make up answers to protect your privacy. We are all empowered, so we need to get together to sue! That's the truth. . OMG!! Choose the types of emails you'd like to receive or unsubscribe from. The biggest, the American Community Survey (ACS), is sent annually to more than 3.5 million randomly selected homes to gather population, economic, housing and other data that helps determine how hundreds of billions of dollars in state and federal money is distributed. We offer tips to help you protect your information. In the end, the Census Bureau has the legal authority to conduct the survey and legally has the option of imposing fines for non-compliance. From original poster #188: I heard the head of the Census on NPR this morning. This is to help the community -- like heck. I live in a high-rise condo building (where I rent), so let them come get me. My high school son came home and read the questions and his first response was "this is communist." Apparently my post office would not send it to me. 5) Arrest criminals from Acorn and stop our tax dollars from funding Acorn and other criminal organizations like them. I am glad to know there are plenty out there who are refusing to let our rights be trampled on!! The rule embodies two principles - notice and opt out. After 40 years and right before everybody in the country is supposed to reply to the 2010 census? Then I received the ACS. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses. Three days later, the supervisor came out. We will be contacting our U.S. senators, including one who is is in a very tight re-election campaign. "I'm afraid my trees are eating the elephants, now." As a retired LEO, state law keeps all my info private, unless court ordered. I mentioned to a reporter for the newspaper the similarity between our government today and Hitler and he said some not so nice things to me. I am 66 years old and I have never participated in any census. The Current Population Survey and National Crime Victimization Survey are examples of surveys that include multiple interviews over a period of time. We are all Americans of the human race. You can find the ACS forms on the Census web site under ACS. Daily calls (five or six) two invasive questionnaires mailed, and now intimidating and threatening phone calls. If the government really wants to know your personal stuff, well they don't need the few benign questions answered to find you. It's now the end of Jan. 2010 and I just received my second ACS form. However, we will make it quite clear we will accept the risk and continue to take this stand. Section 221. If at some point they insist you are declining, plead the Fifth Amendment. ) or https:// means youve safely connected to the .gov website. Section (d) authorizes every 10 years starting 1985. First of all, get a clue! The courts have held the Census form is not a constitutional invasion of privacy and is allowed per the constitution itself. Your results may vary but that was my experience. Verify a Census Bureau Survey, Mailing, or Contact. Came back the very next day, and told my husband that he has full authority to open it and if we don't comply then we will be fined anywhere from $100-5000, and the marshal would be accompanying him tomorrow to arrest my husband if we don't comply. Since many citizens lack basic knowledge of our Constitution and federalist system, they are easily manipulated by media and academic elites who tell them that judges are the absolute and final arbiters of US law. The 24-page survey, which can be found on the Bureau's website, is sent out to about 2.5% of the American population to collect statistical information for city planning. It ridiculously says that the form is to help know where to put roads, schools, etc. I just received the ACS survey and will not be sending it in. then maybe somebody will get the hint that we don't want our lives invaded. But my favorite is if anyone in my house has difficulty concentrating, remembering things or making decisions, or difficulty dressing or bathing. Horrible, and a total violation of my rights across the board. Then two weeks later a reminder to fill it out. They only want to know how many people live in the residents. That sort of thing. We live in a sanctuary city and those who work and pay taxes are supporting almost half of our population. Feel free to not answer any questions you feel are overly intrusive. We got our second ACS in the mail along with a follow up postcard. 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