He might want to eject before the SS Springfield capsizes. (This is in response to Mark). Whats left after the hate which never leaves? It washis lobbyist whostood aside on a bill that rations everyday Illinoisans to nine firearm transfers per year. Im appalled that Rock River thinks that we are that gullible.. That kind of thing actually happens all the time in lobbying. Sooner or later they are going to destroy you. Of course lobbyists have the highest ethical standards, so thats just crazy talk. Its real easy for you people to bash a company when you dont own shit. Cant beat that! Make this a massive intractable mess. The RRAGE pistol features a 10.5-inch barrel. 84283412342. Im both an Illinois resident and a SA collector with over half of my collection being custom and box SA products. Thankfully, many of the downstate Dems are staunchly pro-gun. To address these issues, various proprietary chambers exist, such as the Wylde chamber (Rock River Arms)[14] or the ArmaLite chamber, which are designed to handle both 5.56 mm NATO and .223 Remington equally well. CTD is my last choice. The S&W deal with Clinton was made on March 17, 2000 and the company was sold for $45 million ($15 million cash and $30 million in acquired debt) on May 11, 2001 Theres no way to know for sure. Rock Rivers LAR-15 NSP CAR is a lightweight, reliable, well-made and accurate AR carbine that is ready for duty right out of I hear you on that Ruger. Weve got three very active groups on the ground in Illinois promoting GOTV campaigns and spreading the word. Not everyone reads TTAG or keeps up with this sort of in the weeds stuff. Also check out the BM 59 kits and complete rifles out there. We do not need traitors in our midst. You would answer your own question if you noticed my opening remark: Ruger was making superior quality products using totally American resources. Might see if you can find one to test out. And unbelievably stupid of Springfield. I have a Rock River PDS carbine. Im not ordering anything Springfield. CTD does our best to price our products at market value. Dicks/Field & Stream, Troy, Hexmag, RRA, Springfield Arms, Target, CTD, et al, are making it hard on themselves.They are alienating their demographic. Your opinion and yourre entitled to it and welcome to voice it here, though it seems you prefer that others not voice theirs if they disagree with you. The Ceo needs to retire, and everyone on the upper levels canned to. Yes I am planning on moving. That is their only 2 clients because it only exists and was created for them. You are both dead to me now. Well I will see if I can make a good trade for STI, Para, or a cz had a cz 85 combat one time and traded it, was a real good gun in a 9 mm.Things like this is realy bad just cant trust anyone anymore. Well do our part in other states to support you. Might want to rethink Ruger as well. Welp. Ruger was making superior quality products using totally American resources. How does a company respond to pernicious laws and an atmosphere which is detrimental to the People of the Gun? RRA is pretty close to Iowa iirc. How is it that they even survived to change in the first place? Not a smart move in a buyers market, or any really. Magpul moved. I used to love my Springfield XDM and M1a national match. Robert, and we, the honest and dedicated advocates of the 2A and gun owners stand by TTAG in this. I imagine that there will be a few FFLs leaving IL. Maybe worst of all, passage gives anti-gunners a win they desperately needed. Well, said. Even being on this site makes you a hypocrite because TTAG regularly advertised for Glock, S&W and Springfield. Ruger today is a strong supporter of everything 2A. Did Springfield get shouted down at their own party? When a big box store is competitive on price with the local gun shop, you know there is a problem. IMO, this last election postponed the literal civil war Ive been advocating for for over 10 years. Bill may not have been perfect (who is), but his passion for firearms was solid and he was known as Americas Gunmaker, for good reasons. Bill is long gone and the last 15yrs of Ruger leadership have taken a much different stance. Tell us more about your experience in running a business. I cant imagine the CEOs of those two companies werent in the loop on these negotiations. No wonder were in trouble, POTG are clueless. FREE SHIPPING on orders over $90! Theyve come to the heart of flyover country because they know their anti-2A dogwont hunt back in Washington. AND started planning to move out of the state. Never buying anything from springfield ever again and my one xdm is up for sale as of yesterdayI dont even want it in my safe. The vocal retards who screamed about this conveniently ignored that last part. They make a so-so M14 copy that can only stand up because Norinco cant export their el-cheapo copy here anymore. Ruger sold us out on the 94 AWB and it is well documented. And gun control wins, like this keep the gravy train flowing so they can continue to draw a paycheck and keep on going. 2nd Amendment Supporters are up in "Arms" pun intended about the News broken by The Truth About Guns article concerning recent state licensing for all Illinois gun dealers that IFMA (Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association) a lobbying group back by Springfield Armory and Rock River Now I wish I had not. Typical narrow minded hypocrites. Regardless of who did what,the after-effects of this deal and a legislative loss will be felt far beyond Illinois for some time to come. Beretta kicked Maryland to the curb for their ridiculous gun laws. Keyboard commandos wont fight it out on any battlefield. Wrong. I used to have a TRP. What flavor is it, and how much do you want? He didnt say, Hey, we screwed up. Another dealer told me he wished Springfield well. The licensing fee? Last trip to the range, ran a couple hundred rounds of all flavors through it without an FTE/FTF. I really wanted a trp and a cqb but oh well will get something from another manufacturer. They were charging $100 for a 30 round mag during the panic. More interesting question: can Springfield even attempt to disavow at this point? Except they are both under different ownership today. Hopefully this boycott will pass over with minimal job loss to the common machinist. The company was founded in 1996 by brothers Mark and Lynne Zanders. I buy and shoot a lot of guns, and this includes SA models, but I have put them on notice that I will never buy another unless they make this right. Chill out and stop trying to ruin a great company. For those who missed it, we broke the story late Thursday evening. Rock River Arms earned their reputation by manufacturing some of the most accurate and reliable semi-auto rifles for the law enforcement and civilian markets. You should buy a BCM, Daniel Defense, or LWRC. Customer service beyond any reproach. Folks like me are willing to kill for them. A whole lot of gun owners see the deal as a sell-out. The CMMG MkW-15 XBE Anvil gets the top pick for enthusiasts that handload or shoot a lot. If people werent buying at these prices than there would be no market. Nothing Springfield will ever be in my collection now. A Rock River two-stage match trigger or even a 3-pound single-stage trigger would be a recommended upgrade. You cannot exempt large businesses from onerous regulations that you impose on small businesses. These lobbyists arent in business to protect gun owners or the Second Amendment. Both companies are stalwart defenders of 2A rights and arent in the habit of heavily funding Bloomberg puppet, anti gun politicians, as has been discovered of both SA and RRA. Especially ones outside Chiraq. This should put some perspective on how important this issue is to many of us. My sprinters were not seeing much action lately. All things considered, a Henry Big Boy in .44mag is more likely to see the inside of my safe than a M1A1. Is there a list somewhere? Its a freakin disaster. If discounted to $0, maybe. Rock River LAR-8 .308. The response was to Mark about the others being vastly superior, not your comment. WebThis is the perfet mag for your LAR-15, and will work great in any AR-15 platform rifle. Fuck Ruger as well. I bought 6 smith & wessons before I ever knew about the incident. Was also saving up for an m1a. The law doesnt get past the senate without Springfields cooperation. Its a FACT that those brands are twice the price as Ruger. Why does Ruger all of the sudden get a pass on treachery? Most dont buy a gun thinking about selling it down the road, bit it happens. Made in US, SSteel frame, ambi controls, no mag safety, field strips/assembles in less than a minute with no tools or pulling trigger. Rock River Arms sent me a 6.5 Creedmoor rifle with a tan stock and 24-inch barrel for testing. Get a Dan Wesson instead. I also find their use of Springfield Armory in their advertising repulsive, implying over 240 years of history in the current company, starting in 1777. This is why I said should not will. No guilt trip on my hip. But I struggle with the NEVER AGAIN WILL I EVER SUPPORT THIS COMPANY. What would I do if I was RRA and SAI? Lower Half, A2 Stock Just From $410. Only Ruger has in the past few years regularly donated millions to the NRA. Springfield Armory, Rock River Arms Trade Opposition to Illinois FFL Licensing Scheme for Carve-Out. Springfield could have fought thisor vocally opposed it on its way to potential passage. The Ruger is berween $6-700. chamber also differ from the 5.56 mm NATO chamber Probably go back to looking at CZ and Walther offerings. Simply offering ideas and encouragement. Damage done. This was a bit disingenuous because, basically, both companies were Frankly, Im wondering how Im going to sell my existing inventory.. Thats kind of where Im at as well, REALLY pissed Im not going to be buying the Socom II Ive been saving for. Its called doing business. With support like that, who needs Everytown? Now for 2022, the company ups the game for hunters with the introduction of the All-Terrain Hunter (ATH) , a mid-length rifle that stands tall in the field of AR-platform hunting rifles. Find Senators and Representatives in close political battles last election and get their previously defeated opponents on board. I fail to see how giving the box stores a leg up on the gun shops helps Rock River or Springfield Arms in any way. The Illinois Manufacturers Association will continue to fight and protect not only manufacturers, but dealers and the gun owner as well.. Rock River Arms has a reputation for making high quality AR-15s, but they also have a reputation for being expensive. The bills author was Dianne Feinstein (D-CA). Join up with other interest groups if common goals can be found. You wont be able to pull a fast one and expect to not get called out on it. I hate to say this Tony, but you are completely clueless about lobbyists. Gun owners should have bankrupted Ruger immediately, but they didnt. SA created it). After the 2004 sunset of the Assault Weapons Ban, AR pistols developed rapidly and have become popular. The company is based in Genesco Illinois, near Chicago. Asit should. Mostly out of states with onerous laws and heavy taxation. IF WE LOSE RRA BECAUSE OF THIS HYSTERICAL REACTION, thats a blow to liberty. Of course there will be others that benefit as well. So, if youre looking for a cheap AR-15, Rock Such a thing exists. How did the unveiling of the new pistol go? Cant this fool see how much this is going to hes going to hurt his own pocketbook for this tiny edge? Shame! http://www.nbcnews.com/id/28141995/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/illinois-has-long-legacy-public-corruption/, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_state_and_local_politicians_convicted_of_crimes. Thank God we have a Rural King now here local. We can live without them much better than they can live with out us. This is a digital day/night scope. That doesnt change whats actually been proven that was three years ago. Neither will have the working capitol to sustain a relocation. Its enough of a turnaround that I forgive their earlier sins.. You and your mindset are one of the problems with this country. Either dont have any or I overpay to have the stock and have it at a price that everyone individual doesnt want to buy the whole lot at once. Good for them. You ask what was Springfield supposed to do? Springfield and Rock River Illinois Sell-Out: Picking up the That is only if Springfield Arms survives this. (3) Rock River Arms LAR-15 Tactical CAR A4 223 Remington/5.56 NATO Carbine $ 684.99. when supply cant meet demand, then the price increases.. this draws more suppliers into the market to meet demand and you see the price decrease. THEY MUST BE BOYCOTTED INTO BANKRUPTCY. Accurate and precise for Illinois cant shut down a business that way No there is no way around it, RRA and Springfield decided their Illinois customers where not worth the trouble. Wasnt sold on DAO until I shot it. If theres something worse than a fanboy, its a fanboy fudd. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 Lightweight Mountain Rifle | MT1800X 5.56 NATO (223 Rem), 16" Chrome-Moly Lightweight BBL, Semi-Automatic, 6-Position Black Stock, Black Finish, RRA Lightweight, 30+1 Rds. The LWRC, DD and BCM are ALL over $1300. Some mightsay IFMAs change of heart might not have made a definitive difference. So Rock River spent at least $50.000 fund the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Overall, this is a good, solid rifle. Wow, the article on Reese is incredible. Which would help with elimination if in the future. Rock Solid: Rock River Arms NSP CAR Rifle. As the old adage goes, put up or shut up. I dont think youre using that word right. They fixed the old rifle, returned it to me and offered me the M1A for all the troubles I had experienced. They seemed like a freedom loving company that supported the right for people to do what they had rights to do. These two companies MUST be boycotted into bankruptcy. No they dont. And Im not giving them up, to anybody, under any circumstances. It doesnt have to be both for the same reason. Never a single problem, thousands of rounds. Indiana has a good climate for manufacturers of firearms, and I wouldnt mind seeing a few more ffls open up shop near me in Northwest Indiana, either. This will damage Springfield Armorys brand nation-wide, in a business where reputation is everything. Posted: 1/27/2021 10:51:01 AM EST. I see how you fired a shot across IFMAs bow last week. No further recommendation about the products will be made. Rock River Arms RRAGE Carbine LAR-15 with ATN Day/Night scope. Plenty of folks out there shooting LWRC, ArmaLite, DPMS who would argue theirs are reliable, accurate, & mo betta too. Good luck RRA. Its about the same price as an M1A. This is how capitalism works. And rra. Weve been busting our asses to support our friends and punish our enemies. Their entire C Suite should resign and they need to prove themselves. All of these rifles are vastly superior to Ruger. Like other gun-manufacturers Springfield can move its operations to a gun-friendly state. I ended up buying an Honor Defense Honor Guard. Very pleased with it, as it has most of the features I wanted on a CC weapon. Easy there tough guy. And theyre telling their friends. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. After the backlash he closed down the store and retired. They are a leader in the firearms field with a vast array of products that work correctly. Local politicians always give tax incentives to move. But I wont EVER support a company who actively supports an infringement of any kind. How many model airplanes can I buy, sell or trade in one year? He kept his marginal Mini-14 from hitting the list, selling out the gun owner in the process! That was just a small part of the problem. Springfield makes decent guns but there are others out there. I totally agree Travis. The vast majority of companies can do what they want to, but have have to insist that firearms companies fight for the 2nd EVEN WHEN ITS NOT IN THEIR COMPLETE SELF INTEREST TO DO SO. Bonus was it was stainless frame and made in the USA. Theyre sole purpose is to protect their own interests. And whats worse, if it passes, Bloomberg will attempt to duplicate this legislation in all 50 states. Beretta (ex-MD) and Remington (ex-NY) make your statements look foolish. Most places, its still over $1500. Well, not basically, they did. Thats not fighting to protect gun owners. Bummer, I was considering a Springfield 1911 at some point. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 LEF-T 5.56mm Tactical Operator AR-15 Left-Handed Rifle Notify Me When Available; Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: LH1278; Rock River Arms LAR15 Probably hard now to sell it for half what you paid if at all. I can promise that none, and I mean none of my not unsubstantial refund, is going to wind up in Springfields receivables account. But Illinois only has about 2.1m gun owners of 12m population thats fewer by a significant margin than the number of hard-core urban Dems in Chicago alone. So many good options, why buy from jackasses. Are they doing town halls? WebA similar thing happened with Yeti and the NRA, where Yeti ended their NRA-specific discount program but included them in a broader discount program. Rock Bolt Gun Rbg-1s Starting At $4,450. They can spout their support of the 2A all day, just like Shannon Watts does, but its just words. I made the move to northwest Indiana 20 years ago. I think it was meant to be used with gloves on only. Great grip and trigger. Its their prerogative. Great comment, but I dont think it is enough. Like a shrewd negotiator, Harmonhappily added a manufacturer and big box retailer carve-out to the bill so he couldcobble together the last few votes he needed to get it through the Senate. And then maybe. I wanted one with the threaded barrel and suppressor sights. Two? Good luck! WARNING: The products offered for sale on this website can expose you to chemicals which are known to the State No offense meant, I was just pointing out that Springfield Armory has no connection to the city of Springfield Illinois. In order to try to get a lock on about 1.6 million FOID holders in Illinois, Springfield has angered the other 80 million gun owners in the rest of the nation. As far as the betrayal, bear in mind that it was the act of a couple of people and unfortunately there are plenty of freedom loving 2nd Amendment supporters working for SA that will be harmed by their bad judgement. thats what Illinois is hoping for stand our ground, Springfield got me right in my Grip Zone with this move, bu-bye SA. Down side is nobody making spare mags for it yet other than Hornor Defense. Nice deal on it until 4 July as well. Wheres the proof they had enough influence to dictate what that organization did. Good luck with that RRA. Pick something and follow it. Last Updated. Keller dropped IFMAs opposition, providing cover for a couple of wavering Senators to vote for the bill. I would sell the xd .45 and the xdm 9mm I already have but I dont think there is much of a market for them now. Even cosmetologists and lawyers. I think sometimes its just because they are new to the hobby of guns. Lobbying groups run on a lot of assumptions and they dont take a vote from membership every time a change is made to a bill that they think concerns their members. Everyone here is minding our business, because its our business where our money goes. Dont need it, but I kinda like it. WebProduct Description. I only want American Made firearms like Henry & Ruger. If CTD notices panic buying, shuts down their site and reprices everything, thats their right. I am still trying to figure out how best to get rid of my XD-40 and assist in flooding the market with used XD pistols. The bills author was (mostly) Rugers attorneys. Because of rumors of canceled orders. After the next civil war, we wont allow another one. If it is a 16" it is 5.56, which the Entry Tactical is. Or cameras? And dont give me this they have changed nonsense. Huh? What should be boycotted is this garbage blog. S&W was owned by a British company who were forced to sell their company for pennies on the dollar. 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